tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post2050507808853794066..comments2024-03-11T10:18:55.852-05:00Comments on Headius: Quick Thoughts on Oracle/Apache and the Java TCKCharles Oliver Nutterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06400331959739924670noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-27241794443119143712010-12-24T07:38:37.662-06:002010-12-24T07:38:37.662-06:00Does Oracle want to force Google to contribute Ope...Does Oracle want to force Google to contribute OpenJDK? It makes sense. It can be good: Google would solve the legal problem by using OpenJDK in Android and Oracle would have some optimizations (startup time?) from Google.v6aknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-54903019373745180032010-12-23T23:53:43.956-06:002010-12-23T23:53:43.956-06:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzbdBk6XQ6Y
Not su...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzbdBk6XQ6Y<br /><br />Not sure if you're a dnb/jungle fan but it's my life's mission to get you to listen and acknowledge this song as your anthem!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08425435755112948327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-87706484160822766552010-12-23T23:18:22.763-06:002010-12-23T23:18:22.763-06:00apache doesnt' do GPL?
uh, doesn't apache...apache doesnt' do GPL?<br /><br />uh, doesn't apache have a GPLv3 compliant license?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-69367808852083729922010-12-23T23:02:57.748-06:002010-12-23T23:02:57.748-06:00A couple of things that really cheese me off:
- S...A couple of things that really cheese me off:<br /><br />- Sun promised that they would license the TCK in an appropriate manner. Apache (Jason Hunter) got up on stage at JavaOne to acknowledge the contract. This promise then meant that Apache would be very involved in the TCK and IP would be shared.<br /><br />- Sun went back on this promise<br /><br />- Oracle asked Sun to change their stance (before they owned it)<br /><br />- After owning the IP, Oracle changed their stance immediately<br /><br />Sun/Oracle has the right to break contracts, but they also deserve to be fully accountable for it. They broke our trust. So much for an open process or open standards.<br /><br />Contrast this to other platforms.Dion Almaerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05217443551408401547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-68899427183863256162010-12-23T21:21:23.113-06:002010-12-23T21:21:23.113-06:00I just can't understand what all the hubbub is...I just can't understand what all the hubbub is about.<br /><br />Isn't this a prime time to fork OpenJDK into an independent open source project under a different name? The TCK is irrelevant when you've got an implicit patent grant through GPL2.<br /><br />The VM side of this new project can then work on conditional optimizations for different target environments, say a different IL like dalvik, mmapping libraries, saving JIT-compiled code to disk for quick startup, etc. It would also be free to declare features like class redefinition *standard*.<br /><br />The library side of this new project can then create a *new* LGPL standard library (and replace the current mess of overabstraction in the process). <br /><br />Meanwhile the forked OpenJDK/Sun class libraries can be maintained as GPL options for running code which depends on the legacy Sun libraries.<br /><br />Just think, after being set free, this new platform might even be able to *evolve* again!_mindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20975090.post-67062830838041537722010-12-23T15:56:11.967-06:002010-12-23T15:56:11.967-06:00Seems to me if it is possible to put the effort in...Seems to me if it is possible to put the effort into writing a new implementation of the java VM and class libraries it's also possible to create an open source TCK, being a set of unit tests around the class libraries and language features.<br /><br />Android has proved that an implementation can be successful without officially being java, if it reliable and fulfills an actual need people will use it.Andy Tillnoreply@blogger.com