There's been some good blogging lately related to dynamic languages and their future in a Java-based world. I'm glad there's smart folks out there who really get it; the JVM is a great piece of engineering, and the Java platform is as rich and feature-complete as anything out there. Combined with dyntyped languages, anything's possible.
Steve Yegge: Ruby and Java and Stuff
Steve calls out some of Ruby's gems, Java's failings, and seems to agree that Sun's making the right move pushing for broader language support on the JVM. Oddly enough, he never calls out JRuby specifically, even when mentioning Ruby, Java, and JVM scripting in the same paragraph. www.jruby.org, Stevey.
Rick DeNatale: Performance Anxiety
Rick sums up a post on performance by John Duimovich nicely: dynamic languages absolutely do not have to be slow, and even a language as dynamic as Ruby should perform far better than it does today. Perhaps YARV will be the answer in the C world. I'll work my fingers to the bone making sure JRuby is the answer in the Java world.
Alex Russell: The Platform Strategy
Alex sees what the world is starting to see: that Java the platform was the reason it won, not Java the language. The indivisible trinity of platform, language and JVM is a thing of the past, and developers will be better off as a result. Alex is also right about the JRuby hiring by Sun; it's a good first step that must be followed up by continuing and increasing action. You have my promise to do what I must to ensure that happens.
Thursday, September 28, 2006
More People Who Get It
Why Add Syntax When You Have Ruby?
A question came up this morning on the JRuby Users mailing list about a feature Jython and Groovy support: constructors that initialize bean attributes. The example given used a JLabel:
JLabel(text, bounds = bounds, foreground = color)
Which ends up being roughly equivalent to:
x = JLabel(text)
x.bound = bounds
x.foreground = color
Groovy has a similar syntax I won't illustrate here. So why doesn't Ruby support this, or perhaps why doesn't JRuby automatically support this syntax for Java types?
To answer, let's take a look at what it would take to add this to current Ruby with only existing features.
The equivalent syntax in Ruby or JRuby might look like:
SomeClass.new(text, :bounds => bounds, :foreground => foreground)
...or possibly using a block as in:
SomeClass.new(text) { @bounds = bounds, @foreground = foreground }
However there's no existing accomodation in the semantics of Ruby for these syntax to work out of the box. It would not be hard to write a short bit of code to allow constructing objects in this fashion, of course (using the block approach as an example):
class Class
def construct(*baseargs, &initializer)
x = self.new(*baseargs)
x.instance_eval(&initializer) if initializer
x
end
end
...which would allow the block example above to work fine (with "construct" in place of "new"). For proxied Java objects, which don't actually have ruby instance vars (@whatever above) it would have to be a slightly different call:
JLabel.construct(text) { self.bounds = bounds, self.foreground =
foreground }
This works fine, but it's perhaps a little less beautiful. What about this impl instead?
class Class
def construct(*baseargs)
x = self.new(*baseargs)
yield.each_pair { |k,v| x.send("#{k}=", *v) } if block_given?
x
end
end
Which would allow a variation:
JLabel.construct(text) {{ :bounds => bounds, :foreground =>
foreground }}
(the double {{}} is intentional; the block returns a hash of initializers)
The bottom line is that this kind of syntactic sugar in other languages can easily be added to Ruby through various techniques, and so features like field-initializing constructors don't need to be part of the core language or any of the implementations.
Does anyone still wonder why I love this language?
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